Youth Of Today (Colt Turkey #1)

Michiel Bakker’s zine Hardcore Globally has received attention here… In 1988-89 he also did Colt Turkey (under the moniker Mr Proper), with the help of ‘Burt’ Bart Griffioen. This first (and only) issue is based on Michiel’s writings (militant/tongue-in-cheek sXe) and Burt’s drawings/comics. It also has an extensive interview with ‘Youth Of Today’, and a feature on ‘Profound’ (their own band). Both were also in ‘Man Lifting Banner’ later but released a 7″ in 1990 as ‘Colt Turkey‘ (a side-project)…

Brob

That wasn’t my starting-point; that came earlier, with Definite Choice and before that De Melkboer Strikes Back (and even before: my school-paper)…

‘Burt’

The whole zine is available on Michael Kopijn’s website (bacteria.nl). Here’s the ‘Y.O.T.’ interview, conducted in the U.S. (summer of ’88, before the band’s first European tour) with guitarist John Porcell (and drummer Sammy Siegler). The one in Definite Choice #3 is an earlier one with Ray Cappo from 1985…

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Jingo De Lunch (Hole And Corner #1)

This zine (in German) was started by 2 guys from Reinfeld (between Hamburg en Lübeck): Timmo Lübkert & Nils Röhling. Both were in a band called ‘Suppe Ohne Möhre’ (‘S.O.M.’; “soup without carrots”). Can’t remember how I obtained this first issue (from Dec. 87). It’s possible that I picked it up while on tour with ‘Hate Crew’ in the summer of ’88..

The bands covered are mostly German: interviews with ‘Drowning Roses’, ‘Idiots’, ‘Distortion X’, ‘Jingo De Lunch’ & ‘L.U.L.L.’ (Den), presentations of ‘Unwanted Youth’ & ‘Flower Buds’. There’s also reviews (also some books) and a few (brief) opinions.

No idea what happened afterwards but there’s a review of a third issue (’89) on the www, mentioning ‘NoNoYesNo’, ‘Ugly Food’ & ‘S.N.F.U.’. Ulrich Braasch is mentioned as contact for that one…

Brob

The first issue was a kind of birthday-surprise for Ulrich, we made a 2nd issue (maybe a 3rd…I don’t remember). It was fun but also a monetary disaster because I leased a copymachine without having a job and of course we never sold more than a handful. I have absolutely no material left from that era, no copies, nothing. I also don’t have any contact with the other guys who were involved in this.

We were all in a bunch of shortlived projects and bands at that time. ‘S.O.M.’ was one of them and I played the guitar…

Timmo Lübkert

The singer/guitarist of ‘Droogies’ [Kai Stüwe] was friends with ’em and livin’ in the same village. I still have a split-demo tape of ‘S.O.M.’ with ‘NonU’ (with Kai who later was in ‘Droogies’)…

‘Kalle Stietzel’

This ‘Jingo De Lunch’ interview was at the time of their earliest line-up: Steve Hahn (drums), Henning Menke (bass), ‘Sepp’ Joseph Ehrensberger (guitar; ex ‘Manson Youth’ & ‘Vorkriegsjugend’), Tom Schwoll (guitar; ex ‘Manson Youth’) & Yvonne Ducksworth (vocals; ex ‘Manson Youth’ & ‘Combat Not Conform’); right before the release of their first album.

[Translation below]

H&C: INTRODUCE YOURSELVES FIRST.

J.D.L.: We are Steve (drums), Henning (bass), Josef (guitar), Tom (guitar) and Yvonne (vocals). We’re between 21 and 25 years old. Noone of us works regularly. Henning might be enrolled at university.

H&C: HOW LONG DOES ‘JINGO DE LUNCH’ EXIST, HOW DID THE BAND EMERGE?

J.D.L.: The band exists since June ‘87 and we founded it because ‘Sepp’ and Tom left ‘Manson Youth’. In the 2 months after that we practiced a lot and recorded a demo with 4 tracks. I don’t think I can say anything more than that…

H&C: THE BAND-NAME IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL. HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH IT, DOES IT EXPRESS SOMETHING SPECIFIC?

J.D.L.: We chose the name absolutely haphazard. As you say yourself: it sounds a little unusual. We could of course have called ourselves Fuck-noses And The Boogers or Henry-Willy-Youth. The best thing you can do is ask Carlos Santana what he thought when naming one of his songs Jingo.

H&C: WHEN WILL YOUR LP BE RELEASED, WHY ON WE BITE?

J.D.L.: Our LP will not be released until January because of our own sloppiness. We had no idea what to do for the cover. We Bite made the best offer by far. We’ve only had the pleasure of talking on the phone but I think Thomas [Issler] and Margit [Wellenreuther] are completely O.K.! Intuition or what?

H&C: DON’T YOU THINK IT A LITTLE EARLY TO START WITH AN LP? WHY NOT AN EP TO START WITH?

J.D.L.: Why??? Do you choose to print just 5 pages of the first Hole And Corner, I mean: when the material is ready, why not use it.

H&C: YOU’RE RIGHT BUT YOU CAN FALL ON YOUR FACE AS A RATHER UNKNOWN BAND WITH AN LP. WITH AN EP THE RISK ISN’T THAT BIG, NO?!?

NEXT QUESTION: HOW MUCH CONCERTS DID YOU ALREADY DO? ALSO: WHICH ONES ABROAD?

J.D.L.: 15 concerts so far and most of them have been in West Germany, one was in Antwerp (Belgium) [Sep ’87; the band-picture on the Perpetuum Mobile album was from that show].

H&C: WOULD YOU ALSO DO A RECORD FOR AN CONTROVERSIAL LABEL LIKE MÜLLEIMER RECS?

J.D.L.: I don’t even know the guy of Mülleimer recs, so somehow I don’t get the question…

H&C: IT’S NOT INTENDED TO INSINUATE WHATEVER. JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ABOUT SUCH LABELS? IT’S ALL ABOUT BUSINESS. REGARDING RECORD-LABELS: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT WE BITE BEING A NAZI-LABEL JUST BECAUSE THEY SELL RECORDS OF ‘SPRINGTOIFEL’ AND ‘4 SKINS’?

J.D.L.: It’s the first time that I hear something like that and I think it’s nonsense!

H&C: BACK TO YOUR BAND. HAS ‘J.D.L.’ ANY OTHER THINGS IN COMMON WITH ‘MANSON YOUTH’ OR ‘C.N.C.’?

J.D.L .: Actually not… Do you think so?

H&C: NO! WHAT BANDS INFLUENCE YOU?

J.D.L.: Rock-music, jazz. Each of us actually listens to different things. Yvonne is really into ‘Beastie Boys’ and all that stuff. Myself (Sepp) I stick to guitarwanking/ cockrock Henning is into speedmetal and Steve something in between.

H&C: SOME POLITICS: ARE YOU POLITICALLY ACTIVE? DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES AS A POLITICAL BAND?

J.D.L.: I think the lyrics are more personal than political. Of course we’re also against fascism, racism, heterochauvinism, Ronald Reagan, animal experiments, punx not dead. Each of us has an opinion on certain situations but I think using timeworn phrases as a figurehead/ image for a band is wrong.

H&C: WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING IN THE FUTURE FOR ‘JINGO DE LUNCH’?

J.D.L.: Of course to tour as much as possible and also putting a new record out (we already have 3 new songs!!)

H&C: WHO WRITES THE LYRICS? WHAT INSPIRES YOU WITH FOR THE LYRICS?

J.D.L.: The lyrics are Yvonne’s very personal thing and are based on things that happened at some point or experiences that she had.

H&C: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF BANDS LIKE ‘BEASTIE BOYS’ OR ‘RUN DMC’?

J.D.L.: Well, as I said, Yvonne likes it. I think it’s funny every now and then. Sepp has bought the ‘Beastie Boys’ but only like 2 songs.

H&C: SO, IN GENERAL, HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT OTHER MUSICAL DIRECTIONS SUCH AS PUNK. DO YOU ALSO LISTEN TO OTHER THINGS?

J.D.L .: Needless to say, everything that grabs us!

H&C: LAST QUESTION! WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ONLY GO TO DEMONSTRATIONS TO USE VIOLENCE?

J.D.L.: Everyone should decide that for themselves, no…? I think it’s simply ineffective, militant actions are also an alibi to extend the police-state. (Who’s fooling who?) But I don’t have any better ideas either, I’ve probably already given up…

H&C: O.K., DO YOU WANT TO GET RID OF SOMETHINF ELSE?

J.D.L.: Questions 5,7,8,9 were stupid!

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Splatterspleen

Splatterspleen was the personal zine (perzine) that Amanda Huron (living in St. Paul/Minneapolis, Minnesota) did (starting in 1994). I probably got in touch with her at the time I helped distributing records of her band ‘Impetus Inter’ (she was the drummer) and/or when I heard she wanted help to get her zine to more people…

The www mentions #2 (Oct 1994) “showcases articles on punk and gentrification, various feminist perspectives couched in the context of the author’s tour-diary, zine-reviews, discussion about music”. The 3rd & 4th issue are in my collection. #3 (Mar ’95) has a letter-section, columns on fearless girls, ‘mustachioed mujeres’,  Jocelyn Elders, cool old ladies & girls’n’guitars, zine-reviews and various contributions (e.g. building community with Food Not Bombs). #4 (Jun ’95) starts off with recommendations for reading, then there’s more letters, an ‘Impetus Inter’ tour-report, Daisy Rooks talks about dating, a column on sex & celibacy, etc. #5 was done when Amanda moved to Washington D.C.: it “writes about a train-trip to Texas, there’s also some commentary on Los Angeles, info about Amanda’s new band (‘The Divisionaries’), thoughts about androgyny and grammar.”.

Nowadays Amanda teaches (she’s an associate professor of interdisciplinary social sciences in the College of Arts & Sciences at the University of the District of Columbia) and authoured a book on “commoning in urban housing and its necessity for challenging economic injustice in our rapidly gentrifying cities”. She also still makes music.  Together with Natalie Avery (‘Fire Party’) – they were also in the band ‘The Stigmatics’ and did the zine Brickthrower ‎together – she founded the community radio-station Radio CPR (that lasted until 2017)…

If I want to know more: read this interview with Amanda from 2019… I also have an interview that appeared in Screams From Inside (1998), if anyone’s interested.

Brob

Here’s some representative writings…

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Agathocles (Active Phase #1)

This zine was edited by 3 guys from Ljutomer (in the East of Slovenia, near the Hungarian & Croatian border): Stash Rudolf, Tomaž Horvat & Boris Brezovac. It was labeled a crust zine. They also ran a small distribution and released tapes (e.g. ‘Odpisani’ live).

I got #1 (1995; probably the only issue). This has interviews with ‘Anarcrust’, ‘Violent Headache’ (Barcelona), ‘Tromatism’, ‘Ambush’ & ‘Agathocles’. There’s also scenereports from Belgium (by Jan ‘AgX’) and Tokyo (Ryuji Asada of ‘Battle of Disarm’, plus pieces on squatting in Slovenia (Metelkova), fascism, bullfighting, a travel-story to Amsterdam, and reviews.

Below the interview with a philosophic Jan Frederickx (bass/vocals) of ‘Agathocles’, at the time the band’s album Black Clouds Determinate was released (ca. 1994; with Burt Beyens, drums/vocals & Steve Houtmeyers, guitar/vocals)…

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Words Of Warning (Codeye #1)

Codeye was the work of Rob Ankers (from Middlesbrough), a.k.a. Rob Slavery (R.I.P. December 2009). the zine started in the eraly 90s. He became one of ‘Embittered’s vocalists later on. Sned made the first issue (’90) available on his website. Rob interviewed Charlie Harper (‘UK Subs’), David ‘Golly’ Golledge (‘H.D.Q.), Karl Horton (Words Of Warning), ‘Red London’ & ‘Disarm’ (Wales), there’s also a Middlesbrough scene-report, a bit on punx picnics & reviews (tapes/records/zines). The cover of #2 mentions interviews with bands such as ‘One By One’, ‘Terminus’, ‘Die Schwarzen Schafe’, ‘Jimmy Saville’s Wheelchair’, ‘M.D.M.’, ‘Blind Justice’, etc. It went on to well after the turn of the century: I’m guessing #14 was the last…

Brob

Rob sang for a band called ‘Slavery’ in the early 80s.

Ash(ley) Quinn, ‘Embittered’ (bass/guitar)

Words Of Warning (W.O.W., from Newport, Wales) was the record-label Karl Horton ran in the 80s/90s, releasing material by great bands such as ‘Pleasant Valley Children’, ‘Scum Of Toytown’, ‘AOS3’, ‘Terminus’, ‘Bugeyed’, ‘CowboyKillers’, etc. etc. of which I distributed quite a bunch…

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Earth Citizens (DisAgreement #7)

DisAgreement started in the early 90s as a paper zine; Pascal Thiel (singer of ‘Fourtress’ & ‘Ulrich W. Modreck‘) & his brother Lex got involved. The zine was initiated by ‘Schlaak’ Alain Graf (from Esch-sur-Alzette, where the Kulturfabrik – venue that hosted quite a few HC/punk bands – was located); he was the vocalist of the punk band ‘Microlax’. Various people joined and contributed, e.g. ‘Brego’ Marc Bregoli who also did Persons Unknown zine. The language used is German… A good mix of music (not limited to HC/punk) and politics.

Nowadays DisAgreement lives on as an underground music e-zine, podcasts and Lex & Pascal’s program (Der Daiwel Steet Virun Der Dier; Letzeburgs for “The Devil Stands In Front Of The Door“) on Radio ARA. Read all about it on: disagreement.net

Here’s a non-comprehensive review of the contents of the first issues… #1 (1990): interview with Daniel Cohn-Bendit, the history of the Lux band ‘Microlax’, record-reviews, info on skins in Germany, and article on the unification of Germany & fascism, etc. #2 (’90): nationalism in the Eastern Bloc, police-brutality, terrorism, Ernst Mandel speech on Revolution In The East, record-reviews, presentations of Lux bands, interview with ‘Subway Arts’ bassist Fränz Laureys and more. #3 (’90): interviews with ‘Die Nakse Bananen’ (Hol), ‘ Nazz Nazz’ (Lux), ‘Elvis Just Left The Building’ (Lux) & ‘Waiting For GM’ (Lux), readers’ letters, terrorism & ideology, record/concert-reviews, the Lux scene, commercialisation of metal, etc. #4 (’91): more on terrorism, more readers’ letters, interviews with ‘Graue Zellen’, ‘Go!’, ‘Richies’ (Ger), ‘Capitol Punishment’, info on ‘Emils’, ‘Suckspeed’ & ‘4 Skins’, loads of reviews (records/gigs/tapes/zines), squatting in the Hamburger Hafenstrasse, the real history of punk-rock, feminism, ‘Crass’ and much more. #5 (’91): letters, reviews (also books), fascism in the ‘new’ Germany, various opinions (e.g. Patrick Kolb on police-violence), interview with ‘Thatcher On Acid’ & ‘Microlax’, etc. #6 (’91): ‘Type-O-Negative’ controversy, mucho reviews, interviews with ‘Daily Terror’ (Ger), ‘Phantoms Of Future’ (Ger), ‘Into Another’, ‘Oi Polloi’ & ‘Fourtress’ (Lux), columns and more. #7 (’92): tons of reviews (music/writings/concerts, even drinks!), pieces on democracy, McDonalds, short stories, interviews with ‘Crowd Of Isolated’, ‘Springtoifel’ (Ger), ‘Earth Citizens’ (Swi), ‘Gough’ (Ger), ‘Death In Action’ (Ger), ‘Vlot Voor Vit’ (Bel), & ‘Purple Haze’ (Lux), and so on…

Brob

editorial from the 1st issue:

Why this magazine?

Maybe because nothing like this exists here yet but maybe also because we’re bored. That means that nothing is going on here, either you go along with the big divisions of life, or you end up as a drunkard, unfortunately there’s no middle ground. The ideas of this magazine should lead to the construction of such a scene. In order for the magazine to continue appearing, we need your help: send us articles, reviews or whatever. Though different opinions often drift into the same political corner, we are impartial. We see ourselves as a critical, provocative, anti-fascist, anti-dictatorial, pro-punk, pro-freedom magazine.

———-

I wasn’t a founding member of DisAgreement but only joined for the 4th or 5th issue. Why? Because back then the so-called hardcore scene was rather small, and it seemed that everyone was doing something. Many people played in bands, which I did too, but to little success, so I found myself chronicling what was going on at the time. Inspiration came from other music magazines and fanzines who wrote record and concert reviews. Especially the latter seem, in retrospect, important, because they not only talk about the music, but about the whole atmosphere going on at the time. Back in the nineties, shows were small, there was maybe an audience of 100 to 200 people, sometimes even a lot less. That made it possible to know a lot of people who came to all or most of the shows. It didn’t take long for hardcore to become more popular, attract bigger crowds, and all of a sudden the spirit of the early years was gone.

My brother Lex didn’t start it either but also joined later on. I haven’t had any contact with any founding-members for many years. Lex has paper copies of all 20 issues but not all have been scanned. [#1-7 available on request] At first it was mostly punk-rock, hardcore and anarchy, but then covered a broader spectrum of genres from the underground, and maybe also became less political and more centred on music. If I remember correctly we ‘had’ to donate all 20 issues to the National Library because there’s a law somewhere that every local printed publication needs to be archived…

Pascal Thiel

‘Earth Citizens’ (Zürich, Switzerland) was the band of fellow-zinester Pablo (No Sanctuary, Alternative, Brain Death, etc.) a.k.a. ‘The Prophet’ ath that time. They toured Europe in May 1991 with ‘Schrein’n’Hart’ (vocals & driver), ‘Furz The System’ (guitar & backing-vocals), ‘The Prophet’ (drums & backing-vocals) and Oli (driver). Dani was the bassist in the end but on this tour they didn’t have a bass-player… (Read more: [Earth Citizens])

[Translation below]

Earth Citizens

(anwsers by Pablo ‘The Prophet’)

Dis: Introduce yourself, short biography, etc.

P: ‘Earth Citizens’ were founded in August 1990, of course (?) there were the ‘usual’ line-up changes but now we are: ‘Oi!Siris’ – vocals / ‘Furz The System’ – guitar & vocals / Dani – bass / ‘The Prophet’ – drums & vocals. We played 27 gigs so far, in Germany, France, Holland and England. Our releases are as follows:

1990 * Squat Muzak Part 2 (split live tape with Joy?) (Resistance Productions)

1991 * No God No Leaders No State No Religion 7” EP (Resistance Prod.) (sold out)

* To A Nation Of Party Lovers cassette-LP (16 songs + booklet in different languages – more information available) (Resistance Prod.)

Fucking Hell (on ABC Bradford; 1 in 12 Club Benefit compolation-ape)

1992 * How Much Longer…? (split-7” EP with folding-cover + booklet in 4 languages; ‘Dekadent’ is the other band and Romp Productions their label)

* That feeling (on Screaming For A Better Future Vol.3, Campary recs, Ger)

* Religion (on Religion double 7 ”compilation, Sideshow recs, USA)

* Questioning (on Profane Existence double-7”, Profane Existence, USA)

* Züri Schtinkt! (on Punk is… One Alternative compilation-tape, Resistance Prod.)

* Make It Possible (on Let’s Live Part 2 compilation-7”, Extune Sound Carrier, Ger)

I’ve also listed the individual contributions to samplers because these songs are only available there and will be, as this is part of the band’s concept.

Dis: You took a break, why? Does this avoid boredom (monotony) and promote creativity?

P: Our break (about 3 months) was firstly due to health-problems (hearing) and secondly ‘cause we were looking for a bass-player. Both seem to be clear again, so we’ve started rehearsing again and also play live again (Feb ‘92). We were by no means bored playing the same old songs, on the contrary, we like our old songs even more than before and it’s difficult for us not to play them anymore but the set demands it because it’s a little more than 40 songs in total, about 2 hours of material, so we have to part with one or the other song.

Dis: Have you already had problems between the individual band-members? Because of differences in opinion?

P: Oh yes, there were! But in with the original line-up, with whom we were on tour. It turned out that we didn’t have much in common with our first singer. He eats meat, for example, and now ‘Earth Citizens’ is 100% vegetarian/vegan. But also musically it didn’t work out quiet well with the first singer either, because he just wanted to do fast punk; we on the other hand want to play a bit of everything: oi !, punk, HC, grind, noise, etc.

Dis: Keyword tolerance. How do you feel about your enemies, do you also use violence? Do you think that this will help you achieve your goals?

P: Good question, really. I don’t know how everyone thinks and I have to admit I don’t even know myself. I’ll be a father in a few months and I think if someone physically assaulted my child, I would be able to use violence. In other cases I always look for a pacifist solution. I hate violence. On the other hand, I find violence against objects (banks, butcher-shops, etc.) morally acceptable.

Dis: Do you have a goal in mind when it comes to the music and lyrics? Is there enough response to your music and lyrics in Switzerland? Also international response?

P: As a band we have goals. Yes, of course, otherwise we wouldn’t do it. Our goal is to be an alternative to the whole ‘rock-business’ (including HC, etc.), so that we can offer people something in the hope that maybe a few get together and start a band that tries to give something to the people on their part, or that somebody starts doing a zine or whatever. There is so much that one can do. Our goal is to inspire. There is a response in Switzerland, the result of which is the split-single with ‘Dekadent’ on their own label. Well, there could be more ‘feedback’ but it’s a start. There’s a lot of international response. E.g. we could easily organise a second tour with 40 gigs all over Europe (the first was in France, Holland and England – 10 gigs). It’s just that you ‘achieve’ more elsewhere than with your ‘own’ people. Our cassette-LP, which is now available in 13 countries / 11 languages, shows that there has been a positive response, you can only do that if people are interested.

Dis: Do you play a lot of concerts? What kind of people come to your gigs? Are there a lot showing up?

P: As I said at the beginning: we’ve played 27 times since August 1990. Compared to the bands I played in before, that’s a lot. But it could be more, we’ld rather play live than in the rehearsal-room, which is indeed understandable, because we don’t make the music and lyrics for ourselves. This month we’re playing 1 or 2 gigs, and we’ve been asked if we want to play in St.Gallen and Regensburg (Germany); let’s see if that works out, because we don’t have a van anymore and money-wise it’s not a bed of roses either. Overall there’s a lot of ‘punk-rockers’ coming to our gigs, I mean people who see punk as fashion, drugs and music, which absolutely does nót correspond to our view of ‘punk’. In addition, there are also the ‘real punx’ – people who do zines, run labels, organise gigs or play in bands themselves – just people who do something themselves instead of constantly moaning and complaining. It varies how many people come, it also depends on what kind of bands we play with and how big the venue is. E.g. the Queens Hotel in Scunthorpe (UK) was packed, which means there were between 150-250 people, in the Reithalle in Bern, which is relatively a lot bigger (than the Queens Hotel), we played at 5 in the morning in front of 15 half-dead, drunk zombies. Usually the ‘small’ concerts are much more fun. By the way, we prefer to play in autonomous centres or squats.

Dis: How would you describe your lyrics in general? Which topics do you address? The lyrics are quite simple, why?

P: In the review in Maximum Rock’n’Roll about the Let’s Live Part 2 compilation-7” Lance Hahn (‘Cringer’) calls us a peace-punk band… If you put ‘anarcho’ in front of it, it’s quite what we are about. The subjects of the lyrics? I think the keywords should be: resistance, love, anarchy, shit-technology, propaganda, religion, violence, money, squatting, people who adapt to society, terrorism, human & animal rights = one struggle, one fight! I don’t know if the lyrics are really that simple, because we’ve often been misunderstood. In general, however, I think that the lyrics have to be simple so that éveryone can understand them; so that Filipinos can no longer say they don’t understand us; we try to translate all our lyrics into various possible languages.

Dis: Besides ‘E.C.’ are you also musically active elsewhere? Any other activities?

P: Well, ‘Furz The System’ contributed a ‘solo’ to my compilation-tape under the name ‘Hated’ (just drums + vocals) and he doesn’t rule out further projects. ‘Blackbird’ (a band from Hong Kong) asked me if I wanted to play drums on 1 or 2 tracks; of course I wanted to, I’m waiting for the tape so I can start with it (I have to rehearse and then get into the studio). The whole thing should be an international production, so other people from ‘abroad’ will be on it. Regarding other activities… Dani & ‘Oi!Siris’ & ‘Furz The System’ actively help out at gigs, working at the bar, intrance or stuff like that (in squats). ‘Furz’ and me have been doing Resistance Productions, a tape- and record-label (list available), the distribution Anti CD (records, tapes, zines, leaflets, booklets), all that since November 1988. After our last zine got too ‘big’, in other words gave us too much pressure, I started doing a monthly zine written in English called No Sanctuary; which mainly supports ‘DIY protest punk’. Lara & ‘Sämy Soyahead’, both members of ‘Earth Citizens’ (ex bass-players) work actively on the zine and on leaflets. My latest project is a C60 tape-compilation under the name ‘Punk Is …’, where I am always looking for new, smaller bands that have good idead in their lyrics, the first tape in this series should actually be out by the time this interview is published.

Dis: What about political activities (squatting, animal-rights, antifa, etc.)?

P: We’re not members of any organisation, nor any party. We think what Greenpeace and Amnesty International do is good, but is based on propaganda too much, we prefer groups like Animal Liberation Front, London Greenpeace (Green Anarchists – they have nothing to do with Greenpeace!). We’re active in the sense that we make leaflets, distribute them at our concerts and sometimes do one or the other direct action. Squatting is part of life but I’m the only one who doesn’t live in a squat. We rehearse in a squat where two of us live. So it’s also completely ‘normal’ to us. Being ‘political’ is… For some politics is that what our governments do, for others breathing is already politics…

Dis: Your record-sleeves…they have anarchy & love all over; don’t most people see that as a stereotype? Here we don’t find this kind of thing very popular anymore, although there are many who think that way, but who don’t want to reduce their opinons to just 2 words?

P: We’ve heard many times that we are the ultra cliché band, but what the heck? We believe in what we do and we don’t really care if people are bothered by it. I mean, if you see anarchy (life, peaceful coexistence of all living beings with respect for mother earth) as a stereotype, in my opinion you have a screw loose. If you don’t want to live (= anarchy), you want to die (= fascism, etc.) and that’s probably not entirely normal, right? Who would like to die? We don’t! People who don’t want to limit their ideology (if people wanna call it that?!) to 2 words remind me very much of politicians: big talk – little action. We’re not hardliners but we don’t shy away from expressing and voicing our opinions.

Dis: Question to the vocalist: the singing sounds totally brutal, is that honest anger or a mere facade?

P: Well, ‘Schrei’n’Hart’, our first singer is no longer there and I don’t know exactly whether if the way he sang was honest or just a facade.

Dis: Do you follow the commercial development of your band & label or what? What do you think of major labels, can people boycott them completely?

P: I beg your pardon? ‘Earth Citizens’ & Resistance Productions are 100% nón-profit & DIY! And that will néver change, otherwise the band & label would dissolve within seconds. Major labels are tótal shit! We don’t need them because we (not just ‘Earth Citizens’) can do everything ourselves. Well, ‘everything’ is exaggerated, since 99% the pressing-plants belong to multinationals and tape-manufacturers are not ‘independent’ either. But we can keep everything within limits by leaving the multinationals aside wherever possible. As for the consumption from major labels: yes, we can boycott them 100%! We don’t have to buy records from majors, we should support ‘our own kind’.

Dis: Keyword fanzines; how do you judge the role of fanzines? Is a fanzine even allowed to make a profit? My opinion about it: as long as there are no losses, the price will also be lower.

P: OK, you’re talking about fán-zines. We can’t do anything with that because we’re not fans of anyone. So if I leave out the fán, I can answer your question. Zines are a very important part of the ‘underground’, most of them very interesting (I’ve been reading zines since 1984) and more informative than the established, commercial music mags. Without zines there wouldn’t be that much; so I can state that zines are part of it, just like the bands, both feed each other. I think if a zine doesn’t make a loss, that’s very good. Why aim for profits? If through the profits the circulation of the next issue can increase or perhaps a 7” or a tape can be added, then I agree with making profits, but otherwise I think that zines should return as much as was invested – Nó Profit!

Dis: You can’t live of your music: do you work, do you study, or what?

P: ‘Furz’ and Dani work in a self-managed café called Zähringer, that may become 100% vegetarian in the near future. ‘Oi!Siris’ goes to high-school. And I do most of the work for Resistance Productions (writing letters, etc.) but I’ll start working again soon, though I don’t know exactly what yet.

D: Do you have enough time/space for a personal life outside of your activities?

P: I don’t know exactly how the others see it but I have enough space for my personal life; this interview is part of my ‘free time’. In my free time I fight for life. Band, label, distribution, life is one.

Dis: Well, I don’t have enough time/space for further longer questions, so here are a bunch of keywords that you can comment on. It might be dreadful but it allows a more ‘free’ explanation without having to adhere strictly to restrictive questions, at least in the written interview…

Dreams?

P: I only have one. A world of love, peace. A world without hatred, violence, exploitation of animals, nature and humans. Anarchy = Massive Love!

Dis: Tears?

P: I feel really strong because I actually managed to cry in front of my girlfriend. It really sets you free!

Dis: Love?

P: In addition to the ‘Massive Love’ that I dream of, of course I also love my girlfriend and our child, who will be born in September.

Dis: Hate?

P: I hate people who exploit or torture others (animals and humans). I hate the system that is slowly destroying this world. (Red.: It’s not that slow anymore …) May they rot in hell!

Dis: Underground?

P: Lives! There are many, many ‘smaller’ bands, zines and labels, they give me the strength to keep going because I see I’m not alone.

Dis: punk?

P: An attitude. People resists what goes wrong and try to live as independently as possible. There’s also the old ‘punk rock’ and the 82 punk, which is my ‘favourite music’.

Dis: Skins?

P: Unfortunately, I’ve never met any in Switzerland. In England, however, I sat at a table with a black and a skinhead, comfortably having a veggie burger at the 1 in 12 Club. I also have contact with 2 English skins. I actually know why you pick this subject, but you won’t hear from me what you want to hear. Because a real skinhead is not a racist.

Dis: Honour?

P: What is that?

Dis: Ideals?

P: I only have one ideal and that is Anarchy (already explained elsewhere).

Dis: Control State?

P: As long as there are systems/governments there will be surveillance. I really don’t care what’s in my files. They are judgments by insane psychopaths.

Dis: Anarchy?

P: Massive love and respect for the earth!

Dis: Communism?

P: I had and still have certain sympathies for communism, but like all other forms of systems it just doesn’t work because there’s also a government, and governments are álways corrupt.

Dis: Politics?

P: Politics, what governments do, I’m not really interested in it because they only screw things up.

Dis: Noise?

P: ‘Lärm’ [German for ‘noise’] was a really good band, even if they were into communism. Noise is in a way very good, there are some good [noise] bands. The noise at airports and trainstations really stresses me out, even if the noise is mostly made by people. I prefer to be with few people.

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Indigesti (Hardcore Globally #1)

Michiel Bakker (the later singer for ‘Man Lifting Banner’) seems to have been the main man of this zine. The editorial mentions also Eric ‘Vonx’ Vonk, Marcel Schilpzand (also Nooit Meer zine) & Erik ‘Waterkannetje’ Teunissen. Their HQ was in Utrecht.

This first issue is available online on Michael K.’s website (a donation of Marc Hanou). See cover for the content… No idea what the second issue was about but #3 carried the name Indepedent Globally: “a zine of mostly hardcore interviews, but without a too confined view on music”…

Brob

Michiel did it together with Eric Vonk. I supplied drawings for the first two issues. After that it ended or Eric went on for a while (if I remember correctly). [He did: Independent Globally reached #5.])

Bart Griffioen

I did Hardcore Globally with my fellow-student Erik Vonk (87-88). Myself being more into hardcore and him having a somewhat broader taste. What was behind it? Uh, being in a scene and wanting to do something actively, I believe. I don’t have any copies so can ‘t remember who we interviewed. Was fun to do. Colt Turkey, done by Bart and me, came after this: that was really more of a zine where I could vent things where I was most interested in. Straight Edge and taking that over the top… There was 1 issue, then it went on as Independent Globally under Eric’s care…

Michiel Bakker

In my memory Hardcore Globally actually originated on the first day that I started to study history in Utrecht (September 1987). On my first day I met Michiel Bakker. We didn’t know each other but our American clothing-style (copied from ‘Suicidal Tendencies’: vans, bandana, checkered shirt) suggested that we had something in common. At that time I was already into American punk (‘T.S.O.L.’, ‘Black Flag’, ‘Suicidal T.’, ‘Hüsker Dü’, ‘7 Seconds’, etc.) for a few years, and faithfully bought M.R.R. and Nieuwe Koekrand, although I wasn’t really active in the scene. Michiel was part of the scene around ‘Lärm’ – I knew them of course so I thought that was cool.

Anyway, we started meeting up, especially when I moved to the same student-flats in Utrecht. Soon the idea (I think it was Michiel’s initiative in particular) for Hardcore Globally came up. He asked his buddy Marcel Schilpzand to join, who already did the fanzine Nooit Meer. Can’t recall if Marcel already did a distro back then, I don’t know, but he still does that now, as well as releasing records and organising concerts. My buddy Erik Teunissen was the lead-singer of a noisepunk band I was playing in at the time (‘The Hanson Bros’) and he seemed to be fun to work with as well. I remember our first editorial meeting was in the Utrecht pub called Belgium.

No sooner said than done we started doing interviews (via mail), writing reviews, columns and scene-reports (if you read them now, especially the last two, are quite dated and cringey), put everything together piece by piece, designed a cover, etc. Then copying/stapling everything, send it to anybody we suspected could do something with it. A lot of fun to do and I was quite proud of the first song issue then. Apart from the some of the best records, I don’t have a lot of stuff from that time anymore, nor do I have the zines anymore. One day I was planning to emigrate and got rid of a lot, everything turned out differently in the end, that’s life. I believe we released 3 issues as Hardcore Globally. Cool interviews with diverse bands such as ‘The Hard-Ons’, ‘Indirekt’, ‘Vernon Walters’, a very short one with Grant Hart from ‘Hüsker Dü’, ‘Dead Jacksons’, ‘J.F.A.’, etc. Everty time we were in the copy-shop for hours, after getting everything together and stapling it, then of to the post-office with the whole pile. All things that I really liked and that I look back on fondly. Actually I liked this better than typing bits out… But after a few issues things already got watered down. Michiel was very fanatical about the straight-edge world and NYC Hardcore, and took this further. I think Marcel continued with his own Nooit Meer zine. Me, personally I didn’t like that straight-edge scene in particular: I liked the bands but I moved in a completely different world: smoking, booze, drugs, escapism. I also enjoyed writing about other music. I had and have a broad taste (indie, sixties, ska/reggae, 77 punk, etc.) and found just hardcore a bit one-sided. Erik and me did one or two more issues as Independent Globally but that too quickly faded despite nice reactions from readers. Erik Teunissen also released a compilation-tape at the time: IndepedentGlobally.

Actually I never stopped completely. Nowadays I sometimes write reviews and interviews for the website fileunder.nl – not specifically about punk or hardcore – and based to that one interview with Brian from ‘J.F.A.’ I got in touch, which led to me playing on the ‘J.F.A.’-tribute LP [All In! A Tribute to JFA; 2013] with my project ‘Ringwald’, a contribution alongside people such as Mike Watt, ‘McRad’ [skate-punk band from Philadelphia] & East Bay Ray. I also still play in a ‘Hüsker Dü’ tribute called ‘Hüsker Dütch’.

I really enjoyed helping out with the fanzine at the time. Back then, before the internet, it was just really cool to connect with people all over the world. A real eye-opener for me personally. I still enjoy reading zines about all kinds of subjects.

Eric V.

‘Indigesti’ (Torino region) were Silvio Bernelli (bass), Rudy Medea (vocals), Enrico Giordano (guitar) & Massimo Ferrusi (drums; replaced first drummer Massimo Corradino) when they they played Winterswijk, The Netherlands (87-08-29) & Scherpenheuvel, Belgium (87-08-30)…

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Face First (Mount The Purple Sceptre #1)

The editor of this zine was Glenn Salter (from Mississauga, Ontario). He was also the guitarist of ‘Death Of Gods’ & after that ‘More Stupid Initials’ (‘M.S.I.’; with ‘Sons Of Ishmael’s Paul Morris)… Some of his friends (e.g. Steve Perry; who made the zine available online) contributed material.

Before this Glenn Salter did a zine called Deathcore. After that he kept changing the name of every issue: Subject to Change was the first issue after Deathcore and then came Mount The Purple Sceptre. So there was only one issue. It has interviews with ‘Half Off’, ‘Stupids’, ‘Th’Inbred’, ‘The Nils’, ‘Verbal Assault’, ‘Face First’ (Oklahoma), ‘S.N.F.U.’ & ‘Lärm’; reviews (movies, zines, records), opinions (e.g. on censorship, sexism).

I’m choosing to reprint the ‘Face Fist’ interview since most of the other bands already received attention on here. It was the band of Darren Mock (bass), who would later tour with ‘Verbal Assault’. He founded Drunken Fish recs in the 90s. The others in the band were Jason Hadley (drums), Rich Knapp (guitar) and Mark Smirl (vocals).

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Yann Boislève (Embrace #3)

Saha Hensem from Kluang, Johor (Malaysia) did this zine. I believe there were 8 (?) issues of Embrace (1997 to 2002). He also did some newsletters (entitled Hardcore; 1997 to 1999, #1 to #5). Tijs S. has a few copies (#3 & 4) he borrowed me… (There’s also a couple of issues from the noughties on the www.) Saha was quite active in the local HC/punk scene: besides doing zines, he compiled some benefit-tapes, ran a tape/record-distribution, etc.

The first issue of Embrace came out in June 97. #2 featured ‘Mine’, Ilias of No Name zine, Tea of Pssst zine, scene-reports (Belgium, Greece, Lion-city), zine-reviews, etc. Hardline goes un-commented. #3 (97-98) was subtitled ‘Straight Edge Fanzine’: Bridge Of Compassion recs (Swe), ‘Morning After’ (Fin), ‘Step Back’ (UK), ‘Carpe Diem’ (Fin), Christian Unsinn of Kiki distribution, Tom Lang of Our Struggle zine, ‘Rubbish Heap’, Yann Boislève, scene-reports (Slovakia, Singapore, etc.), columns (by Saha but also by guests) & reviews. #4 (98) contained columns/letters/reviews/scene-reports, and (mostly) brief interviews with ‘Highscore’, Unhinged’, ‘Peace Of Mind’, Stonehenge recs, ‘Petrograd’, ‘Rubbish Heap’, ‘Directed Crew’, ‘Eternit’, ‘Stalingrad’, ‘Honey Honey’ & Shannon Colebank (Flashpoint).

Brob

Saha Embrace was an old friend of mine but he left the scene. He wanted to go back to being a stranger in the streets and to forget about HC/punk. I lost contact with him…

Aus Mat Husain

The interview below is with Yann Boislève (Rennes, France) who did the International SxE Bulletin, ran a distribution and released records. He was also a volunteer for an animal-rights organisation. After the turn of the century he did a blog entitled International Punk Hardcore for a while. Nowadays he lives in the south of France (with his partner Sandrine), where his brother Pierre ‘El Trasgo’ also is. Yann is active in the promotion of animal-rights, biodiversity, ecologic preservation and renewable energy.

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What Made You Punk? (Slaughtered Trees And Toxic Ink #4)

My Swiss pen-pal Pablo (drummer of the anarcho-punk bands ‘Brains Of Humans’ – a follow-up to ‘The Decay’ – and later ‘Earth Citizens’) already did a zine (with his mate Fritze) in the late 80s: Alternative. (Actually he also helped out with Deadly Dose Of Noise before.) Alternative evolved into No Sanctuary (in the early 90s). They also ran Resistance Productions (orginally a tape-label & -distro but they eventually also released vinyl; turned into Strongly Opposed recs). Read his recollections below…

The first issue of ’90s project S.T.A.T.I. saw the light of day in  Nov ’93 (but it never reached me). Pablo sent me #2: kind of manifesto where he explains his thoughts/views on life/anarchy (P@b@rchy). #3 was announced for ’94 and should’ve been all about punk 7″s but the fourth issue (“a punk fanzine with a poll”; made available online by Michael Kopijn) came earlier. He asked answers to two questions to several punks from around the world. ‘How did you become a punk?’ & ‘What keeps you punk so far?’. Here’s some responses. This is from 1995; perhaps some (other) (ex?-punk) people should reflect about this now…?

Brob

Pablo

Lara A.; Massive Love & Désir Nocturne zines

Patrick Kolb; Libertad O Muerte! zine/distro, Svaveldioxid zine/distro, ‘Destitution’

Sascha May; Evilspeak zine

Federico Gómez; ‘Dir Yassin’

 

 

 

Goran Ivanovic; Warhead zine, ‘Apatridi‘ vocalist – Lük Haas; Tian An Men 89 records

Mark Richardson; ‘Terminus’ vocalist/guitarist, editor of Fuck Off And Drop Dead zine

Chris Banks; Averzion zine – Rania Giakoumaki; Stronly Opposed zine

‘Uge’ Eugenio García Escudero; No Flag & Antipoder zines, ‘Intolerance’ & ‘Strangis Guajes’ guitarist

Joakim Bergman; Am I Punk Yet? zine

#1 of S.T.A.T.I. was basically a zine to ‘celebrate’ 5 years of Resistance Productions; it was more or less listings of bands we interviewed in the zines, a list of our releases, plus a few writings. I was surprised to read we had planned to release a 7” by ‘Turmoil’ from Turkey! I completey forgot about that! You mentioned the second… #3 would indeed have been about punk 7”s from 1976 to ’79 (independent/DIY) but sadly I got only one reply (from Mark of ‘Terminus’), so that issue never happened. #4 = the ‘what made you become punk’ issue. #4 1/2 was basically more of #4 and was done as a split-issue with Braindeath a.k.a. Mother 3 1/2.

That’s it. No idea why I didn’t do any more. Most probably because the last split-issue was also the final release of Resistance Productions (well until 2021 that is!).

Alternative had quite a lot of content, the final one being more than 160 pages… It got to a point where we couldn’t afford it anymore; we were able to do #5 only ’cause we did most of the printing etc. ourselves. The alternative (ha!) then was to do No Sanctuary monthly (with a lot less pages), doing 100 copies, mailing them to distros and then quite a few did more copies. That worked fine for 3 years, maybe  even longer, but we expected more feedback which we only got years/decades later (e.g. punks in the Philippines talking about it at a gig in 2021!).

That Braindeath split-issue was the final zine. I did 4 issues of that and they were all named after fave songs: #1 Braindeath,  #2 The meaning Of Resistance, #3 Initiative, #4 Mother. I also helped publishing the 2 issues of Strongly Opposed though. And as we take steps down from big zines to smaller ones: I then even took it a step even smaller with the 2 sided newsletter The Saftey Pin (which ended after 16 issues in 2002).

Every now and then I think about doing a new zine and in 2009 I actually started working on one! That was supposed to be called In Times Of Peace You must Remember The Horrors Of War. It seem to have stopped working on it after 9 pages…

Pablo

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