Puro Pinche Ruido (meaning “pure fuckin’ noise”) was a collaborative effort by ‘Warpig’ Roberto Muñoz López (drummer of ‘Atoxxxico’), ‘T.B.’ Miguel Angel Cortés (‘Atoxxxico’ guitarist; he also covered the Mexican scene for MaximumRock’n’Roll) a.k.a. Thrasher & ‘G.C.’ Jesús Jiménez Martínez. Location: Mexico City.
There are 3 issues (late 80s/early 90s) downloadable from the www. The content? #1: a local scene-report, ‘Anarchus’ (Mex), ‘Fear Of God’ (Swi), ‘Psycho Sin’, ‘Yeastie Girlz’, George Haye of Positive Peer Pressure, ‘The Accüsed’, ‘Hate Crew’ presentation, reviews & ads, etc. etc. #2: a letter-section, ‘Napalm Death’, ‘Youth Crew’ (Bel), an opinion on HC and violence by Nabate (Bel), ‘Filthy Christians’, ‘Stikky’, ‘Ruido De Rabia’, reviews (zines & recordings), etc. #3: columns, reviews, letters, ‘Corrsosion Of Conformity’, Endless Struggle fanzine, etc.
There was also a label named P.P.R. that released tapes and vinyl (‘Atoxxxico’ and some other bands) between 88-94…
I used to do Furia y Mensaje [fury & message] fanzine and Jesús Jiménez published Armagedon (more metal than HC/punk), so we decided to join forces with ‘Warpig’ as another collaborator; to do things better and more frequent. We had a friend who did an underground art magazine: he helped us with editing and pressing. There were only 3 issues of P.P.R.
I was in bands such as ‘Atoxxxico’, ‘Massacre 68’, ‘Anarchus’ & ‘Cacofonia’, playing bass or guitar… I’ve been active since 80s and never stopped being involved with bands/ gigs/ tours/ labels/ distribution/ HC collectives. ‘Warpig’ is more into commercial rock (huge festivals) and has nothing to do with the underground scene anymore: he writes for mainstream mags and works for radio-shows. I do illegal radio, play for 7 underground (DIY HC/punk) bands, etc.
Miguel Angel Cortés
The Endless Struggle interview appeared 2 years after (1993) Miguel talked with Gord (when he visited)… This anarchist/radical zine, from the Canadian West coast (Vancouver, BC) ended after issue #12. The collective of people writing for it supported the struggles of indiginous people, the Anarchist Black Cross, etc. Read the interview with ‘Infezione’ (Endless Struggle #9) & ‘Christ On Parade’ (Endless Struggle #7).
[Translation below; thx to Miguel for his help]
Now that Cantinflas [Mario Moreno Reyes; actor] died – everyone brought out their photos with him or his interviews, this is the time that one of the best fanzines has disappeared (ENDLESS STRUGGLE). We wanted to publish an interview with one of its editors. Our good friend GORED (baptized here as ‘Jackal’, the Jackal; by his way of eating) came, saw and left. And we interviewed him about 2 years ago!
P.P.R .: What motivated you to do this fanzine (Endless Struggle)? It’s excellent.
Gored: It was like my reaction, because there are many fanzines in Vancouver that have about 15 or 20 interviews with bands, 14 or 15 reviews of albums but are quite superficial, they contain very little information that goes beyond, just music …
P.P.R.: And that has changed?
Gored: Yes, in Vancouver it’s already a bit different. What happened is that we started Endless Struggle as a more political fanzine, with an anarchist point of view and we connect with anarchists and very critical people … We form a kind of ghetto and that’s why I hardly see any fanzines anymore that only cover music, you know … it’s a little hard to say that we form a ghetto but …
P.P.R.: What do you think of the labels or classifications that people impose on themselves?
Gored: Until recently I said: “Yeah, I’m punk.”, then I said “I’m an anarchist.”, but I think that now I’m not so dogmatic about it, I mean my policy is anarchist and my culture or community is punk and that that’s it.
P.P.R.: So it sounds a bit weird “my policy is an anarchist one”?
Gored: Well yes, I made that comment for the purpose of communicating, so that you understand me. Of course I’m a human being before anything else and to make communication easier, I tell you that I’m an anarchist, so that it is easier to understand my philosophy.
P.P.R.: How d’you see: “The bands talk more or less about politics than before.”?
Gored: I think everything is a circle. Before they were punks like Sid Vicious and then progress to something more complicated. Subsequently talking about politics, it’s a kind of fashionable … I think that’s what attracts me to punk: it’s very diverse.
P.P.R.: The people from the English band ‘Anorexia’ told us something similar; they said that there’s a fashion to talk about animal-rights and animal-liberation, which in fact they sing a lot about, but a lot of bands started doing it; so they don’t …
Gored: Yeah many bands believe that if they play hardcore-punk, they should do political lyrics. Almost all hardcore bands have very similar lyrics and that sometimes makes them sound empty or meaningless. What happens is: they feel obligated … and I think they should talk about something honest or that they really feel … sometimes they are so superficial …
P.P.R .: I think the best way to write songs is to express oneself without being afraid that people or your friends will criticize you, or without fearing that you are criticizing something that other people are accepting …
Gored: Yes. I think that’s important. Hardcore is so diverse … punk is a culture of the lower class … I consider myself an anarchist and although I belong to the punk culture, I’m autonomous. Hardcore encompasses straight-edge, noise-core, punk-a-billy, etc. And we also make up those who consider ourselves autonomous.
P.P.R.: We believe that here in Mexico there’s a lot of misinformation and disunity. What would you recommend to solve this?
Gored: To obtain more information, I think you should relate to people in general, not just punks with punks, etc. And keep the fanzines free and as cheap as possible so that everyone has access to the information. If you wish to change things in Mexico, that change is everyone’s job, not just punks. Free propaganda is a great help.
P.P.R.: Ah! It’s obious that you don’t know Mexicans: when you give them something for free they throw it away, they don’t care … (laughter)
Gored: In Canada it’s the same, if you hand out a leaflet, they put it in their pocket and never look at it, but they won’t pay much for a fanzine either. Sometimes it’s frustrating, because you can sell and distribute hundreds of fanzines or there can be hundreds of bands but the ideas are not put into action … I mean, a lot of punks, most are complete idiots so … the change won’t come just from the punks … everyone can participate.
P.P.R.: How was your stay in Mexico?
Gored: I’ve seen very little political movement. And from what I read about Mexico and the Central American countries, I had some preconceived ideas, but I see that here there’s a lot of similarity with what happens in New York or Canada. I’ve seen that there are a lot of 1977 type punks who still listen to ‘Exploited’ or ‘G.B.H.’, and it’s sad because they don’t know what happened to these bands or happens with new ones; there are still punks living like Sid Vicious. Language is a barrier and I can’t say much about what they think, but it’s what I have seen: they still want to impress people.
It’s different because here many come together and in Europe for example the scene is very separated (on the one hand anarchists, on the other punks … etc.). Here everyone mixes, I don’t say that it’s good or bad, just different. Here there’s a lot of sexism and it’s very evident in Vancouver as well but that is how the situation is in Mexico: very patriarchal. That gave me a kind of cultural shock.
In Canada sexism is very subtle and sophisticated, here it’s latent, evident. I believe that machismo hasn’t been really attacked and there isn’t a lot of discussion about sexism. I don’t see that Mexico has racism in the amount that there are in other countries, it may be because there aren’t many immigrants entering here.
P.P.R.: But there are many types of racism. If you’re a man, many people will hate you just for that …
Gored: Yes I know. There’s a mocking or rejection reaction towards the Americans, perhaps because of their imperialist policy. I think I can understand that but it’s also a bit of an ignorant action because … well … I’m simply not my government, Canada; do you understand? I’m an individual; and I came here to meet people, see what happens here, I came as a friend, a comrade and anyway I feel rejection (a little), or some strange reaction.
P.P.R.: To conclude: say what you would like to add …
Gored: I love the idea of exchanging information, fanzines, tapes; etc. I’m surprised by the underground movement in Mexico; where I come from, there’s no knowledge of how it is here. I don’t understand why there are bands that only reach Tijuana, but it’s very difficult to get here, I hope they’re encouraged. If a lot of bullshit metal bands come, why aren’t there any good ones!?
We’re currently thinking about what to do with the fanzine, order our thoughts and see where we are going to put our energies. I want to work on more active things … more physical.
And yes, indeed Endless Struggle stopped existing, the last issue paid tribute to the printing press (with an impressive cover) and those who made the fanzine decided to devote themselves to action … not just words.
Good luck Gored, wherever you are.