D.R.O.L. (Dieren Recht Op Leven; Animals have a Right To Live – ‘drol’ translated literally would be ‘turd’) was a zine in Dutch done by a bunch of people from Leuven (Belgium): mainly Gert ‘Gette’ Hambrouck, Dirk Ceustermans & Chris.
This transcript of a chat with Jaak – the drummer of ‘Corrupt Police Department’ (and later ‘Disorder’ & ‘Nations On Fire’) is a little piece of history of the Belgian HC/punk-scene. ‘C.P.D.’ was considered a bit as a ‘fun’ band but underneath the surface there was a distinct political attitude. At some timepoint they pretended to be a Turkish HC band – which was quite exoctic at that time – and adopted Turkish names; to confront people with racist attitudes in a subtile/ironic way…
The band seized to exist when vocalist Rudy and Jaak moved to Norway (evading military service) and joined ‘Disorder’…
The interview took place at the NIX [pub in Leuven], with ‘C.P.D.’s drummer Jaak.
Jaak (‘Abdoel’): drums, Hugo (‘Hasan’): bass, Bart (???): guitar, [Rudy] Hoeykens (‘Ali’): vocals.
START OF THE BAND?
We started in April ‘84 when Jaak and Bart got together. We tried out millions of bassists and singers. But now [‘86] we found the right one. ‘C.P.D.’ is the only HC band in our area. If we have to describe our music, ‘thrash-core’ would be most suitable to us. In Hamme [their hometown] ‘C.P.D.’ is known for their good behaviour (that’ll probably change soon with Hoeykens in the band. [sic]) but we did already get a lot of complaints about noise. Our first ten performances were bad, then things gradualy went better.
CONCERTS HAVE CHANGED A LOT COMPARED TO EARLIER. ONE USED TO COME HOME ALMOST WITHOUT BRUISES. IN DIEPENBEEK E.G. THINGS GOT TOUGH (not that I cared). HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS ‘NEW’ PHENOMENON? (stage-diving, invading the stage, …)?
In Antwerp things are still as they used to. What I would like is that certain people would look out a bit more. For the rest, how they dance does not matter, as long as it’s fun! The advantage of stage-diving … is that more people (are obliged to) join in. You can hardly stand aside if someone jumps on your head. The concerts now are also more spread across the country. Everything used to happen in Antwerp. Now there is hardly anything in there. If Fred of ‘Brutal Society’ hadn’t been there, things would have bled to death already gig-wise.
IN A VERY SHORT TIME THREE IN THE BAND BECAME VEGETARIAN. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
Using animals for consumption is murder! I must admit that it is a fad. To me this is proof that fads don’t always have to be negative. I think it originated in Leuven. The city is crowded with vegetarians. Other areas are still full of carnivores. “Steak, meatball, satay, stop it! [This rhymes in Dutch: “Biefstuk, boullet, saté, stop er mee!”; it’s from a song by ‘Anguish’, lyrics by Mumu]
There are two of them in the bands: Jaak for fundamental reasons (no drugs, alcohol or tobacco) & Bart for anti-nationalist reasons. He doesn’t just say no to tobacco, alcohol and drugs, but but also to fries and potato-chips, because they’re a national symbol.
Bart: ‘D.R.I’ , ‘Slayer’, ‘Siege’, ‘Whiplash’, ‘C.O.C’, ‘D.O.A.’
Jaak: ‘Disorder’, ‘Lärm’, ‘Crapscrapers’, ‘Sewer Zombies’, ‘7 Seconds’, ‘W.C.F.’, ‘Bloedbad’, ‘Scraps, ‘W.D.M.’, ‘Olho Seco’
Hugo: ‘Cryptic Slaughter’, ‘D.R.I.’, ‘Crumbsuckers’, ‘S.O.D.’, ‘Lärm’, ‘Suicidal Tendencies’, ‘M.D.C.’
Hoeykens: Cryptic Slaughter’, ‘D.R.I.’, ‘Rattus’, ‘M.D.C.’, ‘C.P.D.’
DIDN’T YOU MENTION YOU WERE GONNA PUT OUT A 7”?
We hoped to release an EP or a split-LP with ‘don’t-know-who-yet’ in February. We start to selling T-shirts to get money and besides that Felix and me will organise gigs with ‘Chaos UK’, ‘Disorder’, ‘Icons Of Filth’, ‘Revulsion’ and ‘The Varukers’ starting in October; hoping we can raise enough capital. We are not so much interested in working with a record-label. Besides: they are probably not interested in us.
HERE IN LEUVEN WE MORE OR LESS HAVE TO DEAL WITH A NAZI-SKIN PROBLEM (Just ask the ‘Repulsives’ [We were attacked by fascist skins after our gig at the Q104 – 86-05-17]). DO YOU THINK THAT A TOUGH APPROACH IS NEEDED?
The solution has actually already been found but as far as we know it has only been applied once. At a concert in Hoboken on February 1st, a gang of approximately 20 people gathered (including Marc ‘Ear Damage’ and ‘den Bosse’); they would act if fighting was needed. Nazi-skins did indeed show up and the whole audience supported the 20 ‘bouncers’. I’ve never seen a group of skins run so fast.
NEW BELGIAN BANDS AND THE BELGIAN SCENE?
Currently there’s nothing negative to be said on the Belgian scene; at least considering concerts: more gigs, more people, better atmosphere. Furthermore: more and more vegetarians, more politically conscious people, so there is nothing to complain about. I do think that there are few really good bands. ‘Ear Damage’, ‘Heibel’, ‘Dirty Scums’ and ‘Capital Scum’ clearly stand out. Soon ‘C.P.D.’ will but then there still only five. Nevertheless, there are a few new bands rising up, such as the ‘Repulsives’. Hopefully a whole list will be added soon.
By the way, I get extremely annoyed about what Koen De Cleen writes in the Nieuwe Koekrand [Amsterdam fanzine by Johan Van Leeuwen]# 71 (or was it 73) about the fact that the Belgian punx are in no way active outside the concert-scene. OK, there is little action outside the musical field but in the past (2-3 year) there was totally nothing. Besides: does Koen look at the dozens of fanzines that, besides music, also pay attention to political and social issues, animal-abuse, etc. Gradually our new scene is getting more lively, so why try bringing it down immediately?
(Translation: Brob * thanx to Bernd Backhaus for OCR help)